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[personal profile] morgandawn
When I entered fandom* in the early 1990s, it was still very much like a private club. You had to know someone to participate. There were no online communities (except a few like the Virgule slash mailing list and they wouldn't allow advertising, only word of mouth personal recommendations). There were a few public online communities like Usenet and of course there were still local and in person conventions along with paper snail mailed fanzines. But slash fandom in particular was run on a secret handshake, "nudge nudge wink wink you know what I mean" basis and you didn't discuss slash on Usenet lest you deal with the Wrath of the "OMG They'd Never Do That!!!" fans.

This was particularly true in my (then) two main slash fandoms, Pros and Starsky and Hutch which for years struggled with the fears (and realities) of external exposure and harassment. Add to that the typical tensions between the old guard fans who felt they should approve of who should have access to fandom and what methods fandom could use to share and communicate with, it was no surprise that when the technology arrived that allowed fans to bypass the gatekeepers, more and more of us began to communicate directly with one another and formed our own communities.

But many of us didn't grok this at first. I remember long emails to Virgule on how we had to mentor new fans in "our ways" and how newcomers had to understand that the Internet was not a place for fans to talk about slash, let alone post slash fiction. Netfan was, for a few years, not a descriptive term. I remember when a fan began posting fanzine publisher info (with permission) on a password protected website, there was outrage and fury and the inevitable phone tree game with factual distortions and wild accusations. A year later when another fan did the same thing, there was bit less frothing. And the next year, even less. And when another slash mailing list began openly advertising and allowing anyone to join who sent an age statement, while there were still grumbles, it began clear that the era of one to one mentoring and personalized entry into fandom was over.

Fast forward 20+ years and fandom has changed beyond recognition - at least in its scope and breadth and the openness of slash and the type of fic we write and enjoy (10 years ago we couldn't even talk about liking noncon (or rape fic as we called it). Simon and Simon incest slash was just for the those other perverts). Today, I rarely see posts complaining about how articles about slash in journals or magazines is a threat and a danger to the community and how we must make certain that no one among us talks to outsiders lest we be discovered. But some communities still seem to see their ponds as The Pond and their fannish norms as The Norms. And while I personally 'grok' this because I too came into fandom in the era of the Private Club, I also love the fact that fandom has grown to be so huge, so pervasive, so all encompassing and so messy and scary and 'out there' that we cannot be chasing after each other to enforce our vision of What Fandom Must Be. Apart from the impracticality of it, it means that for (this fan), I now have a smörgåsbord of fandom fun and creativity and communities to chose from. It is the Age of the Fandom Buffet and like Auntie Mame said, this fan has no plans to starve herself to death.

That being said, be kind to this decades old fan when, from time to time, I feel uncomfortable with the visibility of it all.

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Fandom here means Western media fandom. It means other things to a whole lot of other people. And that alone makes me happy.

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Date: 2012-12-16 05:11 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
Yep. You said a mouthful.

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Date: 2012-12-16 06:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] klia
I'm not comfortable with the media visibility, either, because it appears to me that, for the most part, slash fans are still being treated like lab specimens to be studied and theorized about, and maybe someday someone will figure out why we like what we like -- which to me is just a form of othering.

And while it's not slash, I think 50 Shades of Crap gave the world another reason to look askance at fans/fandom, and make a lot of unfounded assumptions (except that, yes, crappy writers are abundant in fandom).

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Date: 2012-12-16 10:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] saraht
Also, honestly, if you were a middle-aged woman in the late 1970s, you are probably too far along in life now to be much threatened by the revelation that, 30-odd years ago, you wrote some porn.

I remember quite vividly the anxiety expressed when I was planning to publish my article on vidding--this was back in 2006, so before much, if any, academic work had been done on the subject at all. All the vids described in the article are composites or variants of existing works. The only in-community link in the first iteration of the piece was to the VVC site. Some of the folks then expressing concern went on to be OTW leading lights.

Still, I am sympathetic to people who don't want to be test cases for changes in social mores. Sometimes the first person to stick their head up from the bunker gets it shot off, even if the battle ends shortly thereafter. The contempt I feel for certain jerks who outed me on journalfen--and towards the journalfen mods who were old-school fans themselves and should have known better, but who were too driven by personal dislike to act like grownups and enforce their own damn rules--persists. People of certain ambitions are still not immune to harm by outing, even in 2012.

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Date: 2012-12-16 06:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adair
Yeah, I came into fandom in 1990, was found on a Usenet list by Sandy and brought onto Virgule, where I found a local slash fan who worked 4 buildings down the quad from me. This would not have happened without the internet but as fandom is today Sharon and I would probably have never met. (I'm going to a holiday fan gathering at her house on Thursday.)

Like [personal profile] klia I am not totally comfortable the the extent of fandom visibility because it is represented in ways that don't describe my fandom activity much at all, and the Forty Shades thing just makes it hard for me to tell non-fans what I read and why because that seems to color the general impression of what slash fandom is. Fandom has always had layers, and niches, and sub-groups not necessarily driven by particular fandoms but the current media exposure emphasises bits that are not mine. I certainly don't mind fannish interests other than my own but I find the exposure makes it difficult to explain my slash interested to outsiders. For example, I don't read BDSM or D/s, but I do look for and read slavefic involving power in relationships that are concerned with how people with power differences relate to one another - It Is What It Is http://archiveofourown.org/works/225711/chapters/341851 is an example. I really can't talk about this with a lot of fans, let alone other people because it gets mixed with the fan works that get media attention.

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Date: 2012-12-16 07:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] princessofgeeks
*applause*

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Date: 2012-12-16 08:09 pm (UTC)
laurashapiro: a woman sits at a kitchen table reading a book, cup of tea in hand. Table has a sliced apple and teapot. A cat looks on. (Default)
From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
I love the way you contextualize your opinions with your historical perspectives, and yet are always open to new ways fandom can think and be. You're wonderful.

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Date: 2012-12-18 11:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
Most impressive to me are all the aspects of and types of fandom I've never even heard of. The world of passion is vast. It's a pleasing notion.

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