. what I find interesting is the blogging focus in this thread- many older stories are posted in archives and websites where discussion is not possible or manageable
Ooh, excellent point -- and one I hadn't even noticed. But maybe the question helps determine the viewpoint. She wondered why there is no discussion, and we're accustomed to the idea that discussion can't happen in an archive or website, so we automatically start considering the question as it pertains to places it can occur.
In the end, I mourn the long comments that fans used to make in LoCs. I miss substance and conversation.
I agree; although I seldom participated, my mental outlook was expanded by reading different viewpoints. But that, too, happened in blogs or mailing lists, so we get right back to talking about "discussions" only as they pertain to those platforms.
blogging mindset as to when and what we can discuss would be as alien to someone coming from a LOC background. Or a mailing list background.
I'm a bit confused -- "coming from a LOC background" suggests private email between author and reader, but "long comments in LOCs" suggests comments in LJ (or similar). I saw a fair bit of discussion in mailing lists, though more about the show and characters than individual stories; I think I found fandom as the heyday of story discussion (like in Prospect-L) was winding down.
And I suppose that's the basis of the changes -- fans who think "this" is the way things are done disperse to various new fandoms, and they're not numerous enough to hold the standard of doing things "this" way against the greater numbers of new fans who don't have that experience or expectations. .
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Date: 2014-02-23 08:34 pm (UTC)what I find interesting is the blogging focus in this thread- many older stories are posted in archives and websites where discussion is not possible or manageable
Ooh, excellent point -- and one I hadn't even noticed. But maybe the question helps determine the viewpoint. She wondered why there is no discussion, and we're accustomed to the idea that discussion can't happen in an archive or website, so we automatically start considering the question as it pertains to places it can occur.
In the end, I mourn the long comments that fans used to make in LoCs. I miss substance and conversation.
I agree; although I seldom participated, my mental outlook was expanded by reading different viewpoints. But that, too, happened in blogs or mailing lists, so we get right back to talking about "discussions" only as they pertain to those platforms.
blogging mindset as to when and what we can discuss would be as alien to someone coming from a LOC background. Or a mailing list background.
I'm a bit confused -- "coming from a LOC background" suggests private email between author and reader, but "long comments in LOCs" suggests comments in LJ (or similar). I saw a fair bit of discussion in mailing lists, though more about the show and characters than individual stories; I think I found fandom as the heyday of story discussion (like in Prospect-L) was winding down.
And I suppose that's the basis of the changes -- fans who think "this" is the way things are done disperse to various new fandoms, and they're not numerous enough to hold the standard of doing things "this" way against the greater numbers of new fans who don't have that experience or expectations.
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